YES We show the termination of the relative TRS R/S: R: f(|0|(),y) -> |0|() f(s(x),y) -> f(f(x,y),y) S: rand(x) -> x rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) -- SCC decomposition. Consider the non-minimal dependency pair problem (P, R), where P consists of p1: f#(s(x),y) -> f#(f(x,y),y) p2: f#(s(x),y) -> f#(x,y) and R consists of: r1: f(|0|(),y) -> |0|() r2: f(s(x),y) -> f(f(x,y),y) r3: rand(x) -> x r4: rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) The estimated dependency graph contains the following SCCs: {p1, p2} -- Reduction pair. Consider the non-minimal dependency pair problem (P, R), where P consists of p1: f#(s(x),y) -> f#(f(x,y),y) p2: f#(s(x),y) -> f#(x,y) and R consists of: r1: f(|0|(),y) -> |0|() r2: f(s(x),y) -> f(f(x,y),y) r3: rand(x) -> x r4: rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) The set of usable rules consists of r1, r2, r3, r4 Take the reduction pair: lexicographic combination of reduction pairs: 1. weighted path order base order: max/plus interpretations on natural numbers: f#_A(x1,x2) = x1 + 5 s_A(x1) = max{4, x1} f_A(x1,x2) = max{3, x1 - 1} |0|_A = 2 rand_A(x1) = max{10, x1 + 5} precedence: f# = s > f = |0| = rand partial status: pi(f#) = [] pi(s) = [1] pi(f) = [] pi(|0|) = [] pi(rand) = [] 2. weighted path order base order: max/plus interpretations on natural numbers: f#_A(x1,x2) = 3 s_A(x1) = x1 + 4 f_A(x1,x2) = 7 |0|_A = 8 rand_A(x1) = 1 precedence: f# = s = f = |0| = rand partial status: pi(f#) = [] pi(s) = [1] pi(f) = [] pi(|0|) = [] pi(rand) = [] The next rules are strictly ordered: p1 We remove them from the problem. -- SCC decomposition. Consider the non-minimal dependency pair problem (P, R), where P consists of p1: f#(s(x),y) -> f#(x,y) and R consists of: r1: f(|0|(),y) -> |0|() r2: f(s(x),y) -> f(f(x,y),y) r3: rand(x) -> x r4: rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) The estimated dependency graph contains the following SCCs: {p1} -- Reduction pair. Consider the non-minimal dependency pair problem (P, R), where P consists of p1: f#(s(x),y) -> f#(x,y) and R consists of: r1: f(|0|(),y) -> |0|() r2: f(s(x),y) -> f(f(x,y),y) r3: rand(x) -> x r4: rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) The set of usable rules consists of r1, r2, r3, r4 Take the reduction pair: lexicographic combination of reduction pairs: 1. weighted path order base order: max/plus interpretations on natural numbers: f#_A(x1,x2) = max{x1 + 1, x2 + 1} s_A(x1) = x1 f_A(x1,x2) = max{2, x1 - 1} |0|_A = 1 rand_A(x1) = x1 + 2 precedence: f = |0| = rand > s > f# partial status: pi(f#) = [1] pi(s) = [1] pi(f) = [] pi(|0|) = [] pi(rand) = [] 2. weighted path order base order: max/plus interpretations on natural numbers: f#_A(x1,x2) = max{0, x1 - 4} s_A(x1) = max{5, x1 + 3} f_A(x1,x2) = 6 |0|_A = 7 rand_A(x1) = 1 precedence: f# = |0| > f > s > rand partial status: pi(f#) = [] pi(s) = [] pi(f) = [] pi(|0|) = [] pi(rand) = [] The next rules are strictly ordered: p1 We remove them from the problem. Then no dependency pair remains.