YES We show the termination of the relative TRS R/S: R: f(x) -> s(x) f(s(s(x))) -> s(f(f(x))) S: rand(x) -> x rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) -- SCC decomposition. Consider the non-minimal dependency pair problem (P, R), where P consists of p1: f#(s(s(x))) -> f#(f(x)) p2: f#(s(s(x))) -> f#(x) and R consists of: r1: f(x) -> s(x) r2: f(s(s(x))) -> s(f(f(x))) r3: rand(x) -> x r4: rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) The estimated dependency graph contains the following SCCs: {p1, p2} -- Reduction pair. Consider the non-minimal dependency pair problem (P, R), where P consists of p1: f#(s(s(x))) -> f#(f(x)) p2: f#(s(s(x))) -> f#(x) and R consists of: r1: f(x) -> s(x) r2: f(s(s(x))) -> s(f(f(x))) r3: rand(x) -> x r4: rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) The set of usable rules consists of r1, r2, r3, r4 Take the reduction pair: weighted path order base order: matrix interpretations: carrier: N^2 order: standard order interpretations: f#_A(x1) = x1 + (1,0) s_A(x1) = x1 f_A(x1) = x1 rand_A(x1) = x1 + (1,1) precedence: f# = s = f > rand partial status: pi(f#) = [1] pi(s) = [1] pi(f) = [1] pi(rand) = [] The next rules are strictly ordered: p2 We remove them from the problem. -- SCC decomposition. Consider the non-minimal dependency pair problem (P, R), where P consists of p1: f#(s(s(x))) -> f#(f(x)) and R consists of: r1: f(x) -> s(x) r2: f(s(s(x))) -> s(f(f(x))) r3: rand(x) -> x r4: rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) The estimated dependency graph contains the following SCCs: {p1} -- Reduction pair. Consider the non-minimal dependency pair problem (P, R), where P consists of p1: f#(s(s(x))) -> f#(f(x)) and R consists of: r1: f(x) -> s(x) r2: f(s(s(x))) -> s(f(f(x))) r3: rand(x) -> x r4: rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) The set of usable rules consists of r1, r2, r3, r4 Take the reduction pair: weighted path order base order: matrix interpretations: carrier: N^2 order: standard order interpretations: f#_A(x1) = x1 s_A(x1) = x1 f_A(x1) = x1 rand_A(x1) = x1 + (1,1) precedence: f# = s = f > rand partial status: pi(f#) = [1] pi(s) = [1] pi(f) = [1] pi(rand) = [] The next rules are strictly ordered: p1 We remove them from the problem. Then no dependency pair remains.